Georgia License, intro guide

[m***@gmail.com]

Hello, I am new to the fake ID making and am particularly interested in
Georgia licenses or surrounding southeastern states.

I have an inkjet printer, laser printer at my disposal and have been
playing with the teslin, butterfly pouches and perl ex for holograms. I
know I need to get a laminator which I am working on.

In any case, I took a Georgia license, scanned it and I think have come
out with a good Georgia license: You be the judge. The following link
was replicated entirely and nothing is from the original scanned
license document including the picture, top, seal, signatures etc.. I
think the quality is maintained, and here it is at actual size:
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After printing on the laser teslin with laser printer, the image comes
out looking good and sharp. The real problem comes when I work with the
Georgia hologram. I am using this that I made and printing on a
standard Epson color printer: Loading Image...

I am following a page that I obtained that makes the California Ink Jet
holo tutorial with the Homer simpson image as the license to accomplish
my Georgia hologram. I use the following mixture of perl ex: 60
INTERFERENCE RED, 10 DOU GREEN/BLUE, 10 DOU GREEN/YELLOW, 20 MACROPEARL
. Now I dont know how to interpret the numbers, I take it they are
percentages but how to best mix/measure these? I have them in a plate
kinda just poured in there and I mix it around. The color of the mixed
perl ex seems to be a real light bluish green and the GA has more red
in it - but this really isnt my problem.

When I print out the yellow image on the teslin that I run through my
ink jet printer and then apply the perl ex to the teslin, blow off,
soak the ink with wet paper towel, the hologram looks very very thick
and concentrated, the perl ex is all over the rest of the teslin, the
"Georgia" cursive text that should appear in the hologram looks awful
and some of hte ink still remains on the teslin. Basically the colors
seem off, the hologram looks less like Georgia text and more of a
square box with random spacing in the middle. I have tried
this/practiced it numerous times and am trying to acheive anything
remotely like the California tutorial but just cant see it. ANY advice
would be encouraged. This is my primary problem and it just doesnt seem
like it is feasible with the method I am using. It is not feasible for
me to purchase an ALPS but from what I have reaad, seen in the ttorial
the ink jet suffices pretty well.

I have been playing with the teslin, but Georgia is PVC. Can I still
achieve this card stock look/feel with the teslin or do I need to go a
PVC route, and if so how? what to purchase? what steps and methods are
different than with the teslin? What steps to take (a link would even
be fine even).

I also seem worried about achieving the hologram effect as far as a
tilt producing somewhat of a differnt spectrum of the perl ex than
looking at it dead on.

I have a small, personal handheld laminator htat was pretty chepa
something like this:
http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=535440&D=laminator&No=40&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ne=1+5&Ntt=laminator&N=10324&uniqueSearchFlag=true&y=0&x=0&Ns=p_Price%7C0&Nr=FILTER%28domestic%29&Ntk=all&An=text
, will this function?

I am happy to trade my Georgia template that I made and feel very
editable, quite good, but I also have obtained an Alaska, Alabama,
California, Colorado, Florida, Lousiana, North Dakota, Nebraska, New
Mexico, New Jersey, Pennsylvaniia and VERY detailed New York for any
knowledge, advice, Southeastern states. I also have the 2005 Bar Book.
All are psds with multiple layers including the Georgia one.

Advice on printing, achieving best results with the teslin is
appreciated. with any of the states I mentioned I have templates for.
The easier the state the better obviously.

Thanks so much for your help and vast experience, knowledge.

[Shakezula]

How new is your CO? Does it have the concentric colored lines? The GA
holo is an OVD which is pretty rare. I believe the new New York DLs
have ovd holos. GA is also very difficult because its overlam produces
a raised feel/look. The GA holo is moderately intricate w/ Texas being
plain simple and Alabama's being extremely intricate. I don't know
anything of the inkjet holo method. The ink is purely acting as a
glue/bonding agent to hold the pearl ex temporary in place. A true GA
hologram is purple/red/green/orange when viewed at different angles. I
highly doubt that it can be replicated well using pearlex.

ps. I've seen the inkjet method pics and from what I saw: the pearlex
can rub off easily with just the brush of a finger, it cannot do the
intricacy, and it is more time consuming. my .02

[m***@gmail.com]

what is OVD? And yes NY does have holos, they actually just stepped up
their licenses to be ridiculous difficult about two weeks ago (New
York)

If you took a look at my Georgia, I think its pretty good, except for
the hologram and I dont know how you feel its intricate, just kinda
small which maybe makes it intricate? Its simply the text that is the
cursive "Georgia" on top. The holo I made you can find here (sorry
about link not working last time)
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As far as the colorado, you can judge for yourself, the psd is not very
detailed as far as layers go: Loading Image...

With the inkjet holo method, yah I was just doing it based off of those
techniques in the tutroial for the Simpsons California one, and I was
not achieving anywhere NEAR those results. But I mean that picture is
pretty clear and looks ridiculously good with the perl ex.

Any other states I have you recommend? Any insight on to doing the
Georgia PVC? Do you have a Texas template? Answers to some of my other
questions/inquireis? Thanks again.

[Shakezula]

You might as well buy an ALPS because you might kill yourself in the
process using that inkjet method. Any dye sub printer can work
actually. The person who made that tutorial spent many a long night
perfecting it, and perfect for that doesnt really look all that great.
You could try mimicking the PVC with 10 mil glossy lams and try using
10, 12, or 14 mil teslin to make it thicker. That Colorado is out of
date by about 10 years. That was one that was just encased in
laminate.

[j***@gmail.com]

You can do the alps method with any dye sub?!?! Please elaborate. I
thought that you needed the alps's special finishing cartridge to print
the design. Please post more info on using a different dye sub, because
the alps ones are becoming harder and harder to find. Thanks

[m***@gmail.com]

Problem I'm finding with the Georgia holo is its just one big blob box.
So when I place the pearl ex on it and then blow or absorb its just one
big messy box that dlooks awful. Whereas when I use the same technique
(as explained by the Homer simpson CA tutorial) on the CA holo, the
holo looks pretty darn good and the only problem is it gets everywhere
which is resolved with can of compressed air. Any insight as to what
I'm doing wrong to get just a huge square box blob in the GA would be
great.

[Sean]

By the way, Shakezula, could you elaborate on how any dye sub printer
can work for making holos? It sounds interesting because there are a
lot of small format dye sub printers for printing 3 x 5 digital photos
now, and they are a lot more affordable than the coveted ALPS.

[Shakezula]

Well the ALPS and those small photo printers are both dye sublimation
printers. The only thing that you need in order to make the holos is
the finish mode which some of those small dye sub printers have. I
believe that it would work. I see no reason why it wouldnt

[d***@yahoo.com]

I suggest you invest in a ALps as well,once you have one the GA holo is
easy to do,also I would suggest you print the holo on half a 3 mil
pouch(1.5) from some place like office depot or officemax sells them.

[Sean]

I can't say I've ever tried to do the Georgia holo with my inkjet
method, but from the image you posted, I'm not sure why it wouldn't
work. I assume from the way you were describing your process that you
meant lam pouches when you said "teslin," otherwise you've got it all
wrong (you should be printing yellow onto the frosted inside surface of
lam pouches, not on the teslin paper that is sandwiched inside). My
advice would be to make sure that you are masking off the areas that
won't have holograms so that the powder doesn't get all over, and and
also, to make sure you are hitting the text of the logo with a strong
blast from the compressed air to clear it off well. If the paper towel
step is messing you up at all, its possible to skip it, it just changes
the look of the holo somewhat (it's yellower because you haven't
removed the ink). Also, if the text in the logo is extremely fine, you
might try making it bolder in your template, so that it comes out
clearer.

The inkjet method is far from perfect, but its definately possible to
make solid Pearl-Ex holos with it if you're willing to invest the
effort. It's cheap to try and really not that hard to master, but if
you're easily frustrated I do recommend just shelling out for an ALPs
and saving yourself the time.

[m***@gmail.com]

I appreciate your help, and yes I did type that wrong. I am printing
the reverse yellow georgia box onto the frosty side of the butterfly
pouch. Its just not coming out right.

The problem with Georgia and the teslin/butterfly pouch method is that
its kind of flimsy and well Georgia just flat out is PVC. I'm not sure
really how to go about the PVC method without a printer. I've heard
about the printing on sticky inkjet transparencies, and thats okay, but
you have to master colors and the piece thats weird is on the GA DL,
the back with restrictions and 2D barcode is clearly printed straight
on there, meaning doing the back with a transparency, leaves that edge
around the border like it is on the front, which I don't want.

What I did see however, is a PERFECT, or really really good Georgia on
PVC, with a real Georgia hologram. Person who had it had said that guy
does it for 30 (which damn that is inexpensive) and he uses real ones
that he lifts from old licenses with some sort of chemicals or freezing
method and then prints it. Thing was perfect. Any ideas on how this is
done?

I was working on the Cali hologram and license that is the 2001 from
noblecatz (looks very good btw) with inkjet method same way I do
Georgia, and that is coming out decent. I think because of the one big
georgia blob in the middle that is why its kind of difficult as opposed
to a dispersed seal.

Basically looking for a real good method or any state template/license
to get bars in Atlanta to go for it. Kind of hard because I see people
in Athens (UGA) with really really bad ones that they have no problem
with. Thanks as always.

[Shakezula]

It all depends in Athens. I guess this might apply to most college
towns. It all depends on the night and how many people are in the bar.
I've seen people with TX ids get turned down at easy bars in Athens
just becauase it was Saturday night and the bar was packed out. Boar's
Head is probably one of the hardest to get into. Try some 12 or 14 mil
teslin with a 10 mil glossy pouch for the pvc thickness and bend.